Waterloo

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justintree
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Waterloo

Postby justintree » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:00 am

Hello,
I am curious as to the accuracy of Victor Hugo's portrayal of the Battle of Waterloo. I have read several summaries of the battle, and as usual his geographical descriptions are spot on, but Hugo goes into a lot of detail about certain things that I haven't been able to track down (such as the well filled with bodies, details about Napoleon's behaviour, and the like.)

The two events I am most curious about (and can find nothing on) are the charge of cavalry which has 1/3 of them plummet into an unseen ravine, and (although not specifically Waterloo-related) Napoleon, in hiding aboard a French ship, answers the query of another ship about the Emperor (not a very good second hand description, I'll admit, but hopefully those of you who have read the unabridged book know what I'm referring to).
Probably the cutest version of "Stars" I've ever heard, if not lyrically accurate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbVmgKjZTiA

Performed by my 3 year old daughter, Lily.

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Re: Waterloo

Postby Gervais » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:17 am

The popular opinion is that most of the details like the ones you mentioned were either fictional or used with a lot of artistic licence.

The "ravine" was there, but didn't cause damage:It was a partially sunken road: http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/s ... p?t=113378 (Yes, I know it's a forum, but it's like here; they know their stuff.)

I can't find the facts about the ship incident, sorry. :(

And you've probably seen all of these, but I'm going to use this as an oppurtunity for a link dump for Waterloo, if you don't mind. :wink:

Map of Hougomont, Then & Now: http://www.projecthougoumont.com/location_gb.html

Battle of Waterloo reenactment summary w/pics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rench.html

Eyewitness account of British soldier:
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/waterloo.htm
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Re: Waterloo

Postby justintree » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:13 am

Thanks, I figured it was probably embellished with artistic license, but you never know with these things until you dig around...

One problem with those reenactors: they are clearly enjoying themselves way too much for it to be an actual battle. Wish I could have been there enjoying myself too...
Probably the cutest version of "Stars" I've ever heard, if not lyrically accurate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbVmgKjZTiA

Performed by my 3 year old daughter, Lily.

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Re: Waterloo

Postby Gervais » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:02 pm

Same. That looks so fun...

Some people may be interested on this: http://books.google.com/books?id=ciQxAQ ... oo&f=false

Haven't read it yet and haven't checked its acurracy, but it looks interesting.
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Re: Waterloo

Postby YoungStudentMarius » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:11 pm

Some people...heh. :oops: Gervais, you shouldn't do this to me, not when I have exams and projects; that book looks, very, very interesting...{immediately downloads and begins to read}
...Anyway, thank you. And sorry to randomly burst onto the thread here. But it's all just so ridiculously intriguing.

Here's another interesting-looking book on Waterloo, which I haven't read yet, either, but which has also been added to my list. https://play.google.com/store/books/details/George_Hooper_Waterloo_the_downfall_of_the_first_N?id=V0MBAAAAQAAJ#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDUwMSwiYm9vay1WME1CQUFBQVFBQUoiXQ.. It was published the same year as Les Mis, so I wonder if perhaps it would be easier to pick out some corresponding points between this book and Hugo's description.
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Re: Waterloo

Postby justintree » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:17 am

I will check that out eventually...at the moment I still have about 800 pages left of The Brick to read, so it won't be right away...

Thanks for the enlightenment.
Probably the cutest version of "Stars" I've ever heard, if not lyrically accurate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbVmgKjZTiA

Performed by my 3 year old daughter, Lily.

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Re: Waterloo

Postby Gervais » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:00 pm

Alright, I know we've already beaten this horse well into its grave, but interesting looks at Waterloo that were So Shiny they had to be shared: http://www.napoleon.org/en/reading_room ... asp#ancre4
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