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Pronunciation help :D

Postby NPHlover67 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:02 pm

Okay, I don't know if this is in the right place... But, oh well.
I need help with these names >.<
Enjolras (I'm pretty sure this is Ohn-Johl-Ras right?)
Fueilly
Combeferre
Courfeyrac
Joly
Maguire
Bossuet
Prouvaire
Bahorel
Jehan
Thènardier (I need help with this the most)

Thank you, and sorry that's a lot if names :P
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Re: Pronunciation help :D

Postby Acaila » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:30 pm

Hey NPH :)
Some of those come up in the voice meme thread if you want to hear them said in varying ways: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2091
Thenardier is one I don't think came up at all in that, but I'd say it's pronounced Tay-nar-dee-ay. Marius says it at the wedding "Go away, Thenardier, do you think I don't know who you are?" in the musical if you need to listen to it. Enjolras (spoken), Feuilly, Combeferre and Courfeyrac are all said in the show as well if you listen to the full version of the ABC Cafe scene (maybe the Complete Symphonic Recording version of Red and Black would be the best place)
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Re: Pronunciation help :D

Postby Combefemme » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:29 pm

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Re: Pronunciation help :D

Postby Acaila » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:37 pm

Oh my gosh, the official website as it once was! What a blast from the past!

EDIT: Off topic, but this URL right here represents my first introduction to Les Mis fandom: http://web.archive.org/web/200402111456 ... fm?Show=LM
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Re: Pronunciation help :D

Postby Acaila » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:43 pm

Figured that it might be worth copying it out in case we lose it again:

The authors
Alain Boublil Al·ahn Boo·bleel'
Claude-Michel Schönberg Clohd Mee·shell' Shown'·berg
Jean-Marc Natel Zshan·Mark Nah·tell'

Jean Valjean Zshan Val·zshan
Javert Jah·ver´
Cosette Ko·zet´
Fantine Fahn·teen´
Marius Mar´·ee·us
Pontmercy Pohn´·mair·see
Enjolras Ahn·jol·rahs
Thenardier Ten·are´·dee·ay
Éponine Epp'·oh·neen
Gavroche Gav·rosh´
Bamatobois Bam´·ah·tah·bwah
Fauchelevant Fosh´luh·vohn
Lamarque Lamark´

Thernardier's gang
Brujon Broo·zshon
Babet Bah·bay
Claquesous Klak·soo´
Montparnasse Mont·parnass´

ABC cafe
Courfeyrac Ko·fer·ak
Feuilly Foo´·ee
Combeferre Kom·fair´
Grantaire Grahn·tair´
Joly Zshow·lee´
Lesgles Lay·glay´

Places
Toulon Too·lohn´
Montreuil-Sur-Mer Mon·twee soor Mair
Saint Michele San Mee·shell´
Notre Dame No·truh Dahm
Rue de Bac Roo duh Bahk
St. Antoine San An·twan
St. Martin San Mar·tan
Rue Plumet RooPloo·may´
Rue de Villette Rooduh Vee·ette´
Revolution: like Christmas come early only with more death
Abaisse Chief/Chef
"Les Amis Fun Package - The Awesome Traits of Each"
"She's basically Enjolras meets Amy Pond"
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Re: Pronunciation help :D

Postby MmeBahorel » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:10 am

Reminder that they somehow have Lesgle completely wrong. Possibly because the show spells it wrong. It's Leg-luh, as they are writing that sort of thing out.

That bit of the site always drove me nuts because that part was SO PATENTLY WRONG.

Notice that Courfeyrac is screwed up, too, but the Lesgle one always stuck with me.

Actually, looking that over, serious issues. Random things like franglais pronunciations (should be Mar ee oos under that key), wrong syllables accented (BAMatabois? really?), typos. Were they not even trying on Montparnasse?

We were mocking it back in 97, but I had forgotten the issues besides Lay-glay.

(Acaila, you must have come in after I did - I came in in 1997 when Le Café loaded as two columns and took an hour to load the whole board. I didn't miss the load times when they installed the new system in July or August of 1998, but I did miss the treed threads, even if they only went down five levels.)
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Re: Pronunciation help :D

Postby Acaila » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:41 am

Actually regarding Bamatabois, there's apparently disagreement on that one in the stage show I found out just recently! The version from the pronunciation guide is how the London cast pronounce it and with the "mat" part accented is how the Americans casts do it. I don't know if they were talking about the difference in the podcast or if it was something that it sparked discussion-wise, but it came out of listening to one of Andrew Varela's Behind The Barricade podcasts last week. I don't really know which is correct as such. I've always said BAMatabois, but then again I also pronounce Euphrasie like a new brad of probiotic yoghurt.

And yes, I remember mocking some of them back in the day with my mum and being smug about it in my "Look I've completed first year French!" way :roll: :lol:

Yes, I came across it in late 2000/early 2001 I think, I can't remember exactly when we got broadband, though I think it was 2001. I did more lurking than posting, because I was very much a newbie at that stage, but once I saw the show a bit more it was interesting, and I'm quite nostalgic for it. The site had a lot more interesting bits for fans then, now it's just "Here are the cast, GO BUY TICKETS!"
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"She's basically Enjolras meets Amy Pond"
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Re: Pronunciation help :D

Postby freedomlover » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:12 am

If we are going by American (southern) lettering they are pronounced;
Enjolras= On-jol- ross
Marius= Mar-ee-us
Valjean= Val John
Javert= Ja-vear
Courfeyrac= Coo-fur-rock
Combeferre= Combe- ferre
Éponine= Ep-oh-neen
Cosette= Co-zette
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