Musical Movie?

Go on about how awful the movie adaptations were here.

Should there be one?

Dear heaven, YES!
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40%
Maybe, if it's done right.
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Supreme Being spare us, NO!
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8%
 
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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby FortressDoor » Sun May 05, 2013 9:30 pm

Auf die Barrikaden wrote:
FortressDoor wrote:The 1848 ending is impossible for so many reasons

1. Madame Theadenier is supposed to be dead
2. The surviving Theadiners were supposed to be American slave drivers.

I'm secretly pissed because the 1848 fanfic story I was going to write now won't be originial :evil: :evil: :evil:


Well, "Cosette - the sequel to Les Misérables" by Laura Kalpakian beat you there anyways...


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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Rachel » Sun May 05, 2013 10:12 pm

Auf die Barrikaden wrote:
FortressDoor wrote:The 1848 ending is impossible for so many reasons

1. Madame Theadenier is supposed to be dead
2. The surviving Theadiners were supposed to be American slave drivers.

I'm secretly pissed because the 1848 fanfic story I was going to write now won't be originial :evil: :evil: :evil:


Well, "Cosette - the sequel to Les Misérables" by Laura Kalpakian beat you there anyways...

And MmeT is dead already in the book by the time Thenardier visits Marius.


We don't talk about that horrid fanfic that somehow got published.
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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Rachelle » Sun May 05, 2013 10:15 pm

Rachel wrote:We don't talk about that horrid fanfic that somehow got published.


And we won't talk about The Phantom of Manhattan either then.
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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Mon May 06, 2013 3:13 am

My sister is surprised I haven't used our copy of Manhattan for charcoal yet.

Though the 1848 ending would have been slightly awesome anyway.
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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Auf die Barrikaden » Tue May 07, 2013 10:30 am

Visual effects for Les Mis: http://www.fxguide.com/featured/making- ... iserables/

Comparing the original and final shots is fun.
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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Gervais » Tue May 07, 2013 11:12 pm

Auf die Barrikaden wrote:Visual effects for Les Mis: http://www.fxguide.com/featured/making- ... iserables/

Comparing the original and final shots is fun.

Ooh, thank you for sharing! :D

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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby humanracer » Wed May 08, 2013 7:28 pm

The movie is what it is. Anytime a musical is made into a motion picture, there is always the same criticisms made such as the fact that the cast cannot sing. This is because Hollywood actors generally don't have much of a musicial background. I remember all the same criticisms directed at Mamma Mia. In fact has there ever been a musical where the movie version has been superior? Maybe Oliver. The movie served its purpose in that it introduced people (like me) to the musical and the novel and also made a whole lot of money in the process. Besides in 5-10 years time the hype regarding Les Mis will have died down again and it will become purely a musical phenomenon once more.

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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Flynn » Wed May 08, 2013 7:47 pm

humanracer wrote:In fact has there ever been a musical where the movie version has been superior?


Oliver!, Fiddler on the Roof, Jesus Christ Superstar, Cabaret, Sound of Music come to mind.

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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Acaila » Sat May 25, 2013 1:28 pm

Watching it again to break in my dvd, realise how much I miss the two constables' bit in the prologue. I like the disdainful sarcasm, and the Bishop's interruption keeps the pace up nicely.

Also Factory Girl barely glances at the letter when she's meant to be reading it.
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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Flynn » Sat May 25, 2013 11:55 pm

Yeah, there are a lot of bits in the musical that are really well-paced that the movie breaks up, to its detriment- "The Beggars" and "The Robbery/Javert's Intervention" come to mind as well.

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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Acaila » Sun May 26, 2013 12:12 am

What are you meaning by "The Beggars"?

Yes, I was noticing pacing a lot more today. Pacing is one area in which I feel the original production is really watertight in. The 25th version messes with that, as does the movie.
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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Flynn » Sun May 26, 2013 8:24 am

The "Look Down" reprise. That's its official name in the score.

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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Acaila » Sun May 26, 2013 11:00 am

Ah, I go by recording titles, usually OLC ones with CSR for the blanks. They seem to be rather more widely understood.
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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Flynn » Mon May 27, 2013 5:08 am

I do in general (hence why you won't see me refer to "Who Am I?" as "Cart Crash"), but that's the exception for me, since "Look Down" could refer to either the convicts or the beggars. I suppose saying "Look Down (The Beggars)" would be the clearest way of putting it.

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Re: Musical Movie?

Postby Rachel » Mon May 27, 2013 5:19 am

Flynn wrote:I do in general (hence why you won't see me refer to "Who Am I?" as "Cart Crash"), but that's the exception for me, since "Look Down" could refer to either the convicts or the beggars. I suppose saying "Look Down (The Beggars)" would be the clearest way of putting it.


I generally hear Look Down (The Beggars) referred to as Look Down or Look Down (Reprise) and the convicts one being referred The Prologue or Work Song and sometimes Look Down. But you're right, it is confusing.
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