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Re: Anime?

Postby Nada Kyo » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:30 am

Lol, maybe I'm just literal from the descriptions in the book. I was under the impression he was somewhat muscular, not a skinny twig of a man who looked like he could be snapped in half. D: Not that I have anything against twiggy pretty boys...XD -drools- Agreed he should have given the Glare of Death to the fangirls tho.

Agreed on the coffin scene, that was really well done. One of my favorite scenes tho, even tho I don't remember it being in the book, was the one a previous member mentioned...when Cosette and Éponine meet up again as teenagers. For some reason...that part was very moving.

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Re: Anime?

Postby Col.Despard » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:59 am

I actually think this is probably the first depiction of Enjolras in any screen format that is close to the book, Nada. He is described as being angellically beautiful, and later likened to the angel on his quadriga of stars. If you look at depictions of angels, including the kickass Archangel Michael, you'll see that they are rather feminised in their appearance both in the 19th century and before. Enjolras, to borrow an online translation, has these features:

- He was angelically handsome.

- His eyes were deep, his lids a little red, his lower lip was thick and easily became disdainful, his brow was lofty.

-He was endowed with excessive youth, and was as rosy as a young girl, although subject to hours of pallor.

-Already a man, he still seemed a child. His two and twenty years appeared to be but seventeen

-face of a youth escaped from college

- page's mien (sometimes also translated as "page boy figure", which suggests slenderness)

- long, golden lashes

- blue eyes

-hair billowing in the wind

- rosy cheeks

- fresh lips

- exquisite teeth

I don't see anything indicating he's muscular - indeed, later, during the scene with Le Cabuc, we find he is a "frail young man ".

We are also told he has a "woman's face" (and is has the visage of a Greek goddess, Themis).

The overall picture is consistent with the anime Enjolras (except I think the hair too archaically long - I don't think Enjolras was the type of Romantic in Paris that was growing his hair to that length, but as it's described as blowing around and flowing it clearly had some length to it).
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Re: Anime?

Postby Nada Kyo » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:39 am

Mm, makes me wish I had my book with me, with the scene that made me think the way I do.

It was some scene comparing Enjolras to Grantaire...maybe I misinterpreted it back then as physical, rather than personable. o; Guess I've simply been out of the loop for a long time and need to re-read stuff over again. I'll just say you're right, as well as 9430, and save face before I get others who corner me as well. XP

I love your art tho, btw, Despard. ^^ I know I had seen your name before, but couldn't remember where. Then someone mentioned you had a dA.


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Postby collectingbees » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:06 am

Nessa wrote:Finished. Well... counting everything... 8/10. And if Javert died, it would be 9.5/10.
There are a lot of super-accurate scenes, but too many "cute random extras". We don't really need Alan, Chouchou, or Cosette's friend's son missing (a WHOLE episode), or Éponine's schoolmate who likes Cosette better.
But the designs are quite good (except Thénardier: he doesn't look scary enough, just a funny evil), the voices - especially the men's - are well-chosen. (Valjean's and Javert's voices are just perfect.)
We get almost everything from the book, and sometimes little things from the musical (Factory Girl looks exactly like in the musical).
And all Amis exist. And there's Patron-Minette and they look exactly like they should look.
I don't know whom did they make this to. For children or for book!geeks? Because it's both. The fluffy extras are for kids, but they kill off a lot of characters canonically. And then they let Gavroche and Javert live. After all the Amis, Epp and cute old Mabeuf died. *hugs Mabeuf* Plus they show the plague, they show all the misery realistically, and then... they screw up Gavroche and Javert. WTF Chouchou comes to save the day? WTF sunrise?
But I just loved that Thénardier gets no money and goes to jail at the end. The bastard really deserves it.


I agree with this wholly, especially about the unnecessary characters. That dog was really irritating me.

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Re: Anime?

Postby 9430 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:53 pm

Looks like episode 24's just been released! Off to watch it now.
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Re: Anime?

Postby hazellwood » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:54 pm

I watched that without subs and the parts with Marius were seriously the most amusing thing I'd ever seen. Everyone needs to go watch it. Right now.

Although it is unfortunate that they start to sub them again right after I finished watching them raw.

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Re: Anime?

Postby Col.Despard » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:55 pm

A different experience watching it with the subs!

Am hugely amused at Combeferre and Marius going at it over Napoleon immediately upon being introduced to each other. A bit unsporting of Combeferre to reign in Enjolras, though, after he'd only got two lines in. No wonder Enjolras decided to just...slump to the floor. Clearly he was having a Bad Day.

Probably because everyone in the Amis seemed to be having a case of the Sarks when Marius and Courfeyrac walked in. This must be what happens when Joly, Bossuet and Prouvaire aren't around.

Courfeyrac a total scene stealer, of course. He is SO coming on to Marius in this series. He even breaks off from chatting up a random chick beside the Seine (in defiance of normal social conventions - Courfeyrac has no problems talking with unescorted women in public and regaling them, it seems, with stories of his progress through university...on the other hand, if she was a prostitute, it was the most interesting approach to picking one up) to ogle his flatmates. Meetings of the ABC my arse...that is clearly a pretext, as given away with his "what we really need is money" spiel. Um, what? Marius is going to make a donation now? Come up with a fundraising idea?
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Re: Anime?

Postby collectingbees » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:14 pm

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED COURFEYRAC COMING ON TO MARIUS!!!

Then again, who is he NOT coming onto? ;P

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Re: Anime?

Postby hazellwood » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:15 pm

collectingbees wrote:I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED COURFEYRAC COMING ON TO MARIUS!!!

Then again, who is he NOT coming onto? ;P


I personally am fond of the part when Courfeyrac whispers in Marius' ear to 'induct him into the revolution'. c:

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Re: Anime?

Postby Col.Despard » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:45 am

hazellwood wrote:
collectingbees wrote:I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED COURFEYRAC COMING ON TO MARIUS!!!

Then again, who is he NOT coming onto? ;P


I personally am fond of the part when Courfeyrac whispers in Marius' ear to 'induct him into the revolution'. c:

Heh. Is that what they're calling it these days?

Collectingbees, what did you make of Montparnasse apparently holding up the bar this *entire episode*. Seriously, he hasn't moved during the entire time this installment takes place from leaning back with his elbows up on it. He does take the award for historical accuracy in costuming and coiffure for this series, though - I don't know what the Amis are thinking. Enjolras' hair gives the impression he thnks it's still 1789 and they're off to storm the Bastille, and Courfeyrac looks like he's wearing a converted potato sack. As for his hair...well...I don't know what era that reflects. Something slicked back? Marius and Prouvaire have attacked the gel to spike their 'dos.

And let's not even go there with Cosette's hair. It's like the anti-1832 style.
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Re: Anime?

Postby hazellwood » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:50 am

Well, hey, if A Wasps Nest is any indication... ;)

I happen to like anime!Enjolras' hair. It's very fluffy and bishounen. And blond(e). The crazy spiky anime hair for the rest of them, on the other hand... and ohhh Cosette's hair. I have issues with Cosette's design, I don't get why they changed her from brunette-with-blue-eyes to blonde-with-blue-eyes.

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Re: Anime?

Postby collectingbees » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:29 am

I love how anime!Courfeyrac comes on the EVRYTHING. Anime!Montparnasse is almost acceptable, but I don't like his hair and he needs a hat, but a pretty good job either way!

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Re: Anime?

Postby Ulkis » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:45 am

I have issues with Cosette's design, I don't get why they changed her from brunette-with-blue-eyes to blonde-with-blue-eyes.


I guess to match Fantine?

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Re: Anime?

Postby collectingbees » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:19 am

So, I re-watched episode 24, and I have to say, that the more that I re-watch it, the more that I like it. I don't know, I guess because it's such a faithful adaptation, and then it's not... it has the stupid dog, but it also has the Attack on Rue Plumet scene which I think the musical is the only other version to have that (am I wrong?). I think that the format really suited the story very well, letting the characters develop over the course of the series. I wasn't altogether keen on some of the designs (which aren't so much 19th century France and more so anime staples).

Can I just say that anime!Gavroche is pretty awesome, and rivals my love for the 1934 French one? Because he does.

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Re: Anime?

Postby Ulkis » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:14 pm

I wasn't altogether keen on some of the designs (which aren't so much 19th century France and more so anime staples).


Like Cosette's giant bangs? :)

2000 mini-series has the attack. And that 1972 series I talked about. And that's it? Weird.

That site is not working for me so I went here but it's an episode behind.

ETA: watched episode 23. Oh my God I want to stab Cosette in the eyes with a fork aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Please tell me Gavroche gets less cheesy than in those 2 seconds he appeared.

I liked the music that played when Éponine was following after Marius.

I like it. I don't know, I guess because it's such a faithful adaptation, and then it's not


It's like the 2000 one, it's faithful but it has random weird scenes inserted.


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