Roses for Ophelia wrote:you know what's sort of the WORST thing about Tholo? The fact that he's so ordinary. I mean, think how many young students abandoned their mistresses when it was itme to become 'respectable.' Really, if Cosette wasn't in the picture he'd just be like any other guy on the street who walks out on his girl. I mean, we can rant and rave about what an asshole he is all we want, but really, he never did anything any man wouldn't do. Guys like Courfeyrac, who we are told is a really great guy (heart of a paladin and all) i suppose, would be the exception, not the rule.
This chapter was added to the novel during the revisions of 1860. There are a few inaccuracies in this long list of Hugo's memories of Restoration Paris, and Hugo sometimes seems to be amusing himself with ironic depictions of people or events as he seeks to conjure up the political and cultural atmosphere of Restoration Paris for his Second Empire readers.
Several critics have pointed out that 1817 is also the year in which Victor Hugo entered public poetry competitions, thus marking his debut as a professional writer.
Gervais wrote:It's been mentioned before, but it's almost scary how common Felix and the guys are. They aren't described as being particularly mean or fussy, they're just the average joe according to their description.
YoungStudentMarius wrote:That's interesting, Gervais, about Victor Hugo first entering competitions in 1817. I hadn't known that.Gervais wrote:It's been mentioned before, but it's almost scary how common Felix and the guys are. They aren't described as being particularly mean or fussy, they're just the average joe according to their description.
That is very interesting, now that you mention it. And it makes it more heartbreaking, too, but I do have to wonder, while this whole book is a condemnation of society and everything, if Fantine would have fallen for it if she hadn't been on her own. If she hadn't grown up a veritable orphan, and left by herself, you know, had no stable family/relationship already built in? I admittedly don't know much of anything about what sort of a family unit or life would have been there for someone of Fantine's status, then, or even just in general, I have to wonder if she might have been like the other three otherwise. And if not, then I guess the question is, what makes her so innocent?
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