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Any research done in relation to the period of Les Misérables, whether for fanfiction or fanart purposes or otherwise.
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Postby Hannah » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:34 am

I'm dorkily keen on fashion and I think being able to imagine what people were wearing is a pre' important part of imagining the setting and stuff of... things

...screw introductions HEY GUYS I FOUND SOME COOL LINKS

Since the story sort of goes from the Regency to Georgian/Romantic eras, fashionwise, there's both this link here, which is the former, and this one here, which is the latter. The one becomes the other around the 1820s, so the latter part of the Regency section is actually more relevant to Les Mis than the beginning of the Romantic one, but it's cool to have a look at both.

OH AND here's some hairstyles and hats (The second sets of examples obviously; the more ridiculous ones :'D)

And I've also found costumes.org to be an awesome resource, there's some good stuff in the 1830's section of the Victorian period page (here) and in the Regency page (here)!

I HOPE YOU ALL ENJOY THOSE, presuming you have not seen them all before; I'm going to go draw Cosette in a bunch of stupid hats now. :D ADIEU.

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Postby Hannah » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:37 am

SORRY FOR REPLYING TO MY OWN POST BUT JEHAN TOTALLY OWNS THIS WAISTCOAT: http://www.meg-andrews.com/showitem.php?item=7198

Edit: OK I'm just going to use this to throw up more links :'D

Here's some awesome fashion plates specifically from France during various times, mostly the 20s and 30s, so most useful to people imagining the latter part of the book...

http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/Charles10.htm
http://www.costumes.org/history/100page ... isiens.htm

Some menswear, which is less easy to find and considerably more boring -- http://www.songsmyth.com/menday.html

And there might be more, I'm still digging around :D

EDIT #2!: Here's some peasants! YAY PEASANTS. Sadly this one's just ladies, too. http://www.costumes.org/history/100page ... asants.htm

And this one's from earlier, around 1812, which reminds me of what Fantine and her friends might have worn before their men skedaddled. http://www.costumegallery.com/1812/costume_parisien/

EDIT #3: Ohhh, here's an awesome one - photographs of actual clothing from 1700-1837! Obviously a good chunk of it is pre-Les Mis, but still very nifty. http://www.antique-lace.com/categories/ ... Date_1.htm

And last one, I promise -- http://www.marquise.de/en/1800/index.shtml this one's just general info on the fashions of the 19th century in Westen Europe :) Whoo!
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Postby Hannah » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:12 am

Okay, I lied. ONE MORE POST because even though no one in Les Mis would have worn their hair likes this...

These are too good to keep to myself.

1. http://www.marquise.de/database/dbout.p ... &pfad=1800
2. http://www.marquise.de/database/dbout.p ... &pfad=1800
3. http://www.marquise.de/database/dbout.p ... &pfad=1800

I wish it was fashionable NOWADAYS to put all that stuff in your hair, check that out! She's got like... keys, arrows... rocks, leaves, animals... DANG.

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Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:57 am

Useful next time I plan on writing the ladies in a drawing room scene! :D :D
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Postby Col.Despard » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:36 pm

Nice idea, Hannah - there are a few of us who are fashion fans of the era, and I suppose most of us take an interest in it to some degree or another. Karen Augusta is very reputable in vintage clothing circles...she does a lot of auction work these days as well as appraisals.

I don't think I ever posted the photos of my late 1820s tailcoat here (although everyone on my LJ has heard me babble about it)...I need to get some close up construction photos as they might be helpful, particularly with questions about pockets, buttons etc:

Front:

Image

Back:

Image

M-notch collar, popular at the time:

Image

Friend models it:

Image

Enjolras and his own version:

Image

I have a whole bunch of male fashion scans from a sourcebook for the 1790s through to the 1830s. I'm reluctant to post them here for copyright reason, but if there's something in particular anyone's looking for, let me know and I'll see if I can find anything (you'll recognise a few of them in my pics!)
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Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:31 pm

Lovely!! :D :D

Wish I had my own 1820's gear....can you find patterns for such things?
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Postby Hannah » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:55 pm

Despard -- that's wonderful, I love the notch on the collar. And may I ask what the name of the sourcebook is? :D

Aurelia -- I'm sure you can, though I've only personally found patterns for earlier and later styles, unfortunately. Since the 1820s were sort of transitional, fashionwise...

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Postby Col.Despard » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:40 pm

Glad you like, Hannah! I'm fond of the m-notch myself, and really should make greater use of it.

The books is John Peacock's "Men's Fashion: The Complete Sourcebook" - you're probably familiar with his works?...to be honest, I'm incredibly fond of his fashion soucebooks (although some people utterly adore them). He's a remarkable researcher and has a fairly clear illustrative style that suits the "sourcebook" idea, but I prefer contemporary interpretations (fashion plates, paintings, photographs for later eras etc) and photographs of extant garments on mannequins to a single artist's interpretation. Most of my 1920s fashion secondary sources are books that use this technique, otherwise I go back catalogues, fashion magazines and photographs etc from the era (not to mention the actual garments).

Unfortunately, men's clothing is an under-explored area. I have a friend doing her MA in museum studies who is hoping to eventually narrow her work to fashion and textiles, and she's been trying to push me in the direction of formally researching men's fashion for further academic qualifications as there's so much scope there. It's an intriguing idea, but unfortunately I lack the knowledge and experience in construction techniques and real textile identification that is so necessary to this research. I know enough to muddle by as a collector and amateur, but to do really innovative research you'd have to really be across that.

I'll see if I can find the links to some favourite online images...I have a fondness for the more extreme fashions of the period (the massive shawl collars, ridiculously cinched in waist etc), but there's an interesting blog somewhere on a men's tailoring site that contrasts fashion plate images with a near-photo-realistic painting of a fashionable man of the time, so you can see where the plate exaggerations and emphasis come in against the real thing.
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Postby Col.Despard » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:42 pm

Where does your interest lie, Aurelia? More towards doing drag (erm...my preference for this period...) or women's fashion? I know a lot of costume reinactors and can ask them for you about the best resources. I also have a few of those wonderful V&A pattern books...I'll have to see if they cover the era, though (can't believe I haven't looked at them in a while, as there might have been somewhere here interested in them).
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Postby Elwen Rhiannon » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:48 pm

Does anyone know a website with female hairstyles of the period, including some tips how to achieve the result? I have long hair and would love to have some fun with it :D

OK, maybe rather 19th century than 1830s hairstyle, that years were not the best for female heads...
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Postby Euphrasie » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:15 pm

I tried to curl my hair back in July, did not turn out well at all, and I found this during said catastrophe. I had this page with more hairstyles, but I can't seem to find that one, so I hope this'll suffice.
It's not really 1830s-ish, more like 1800-1820, I think.
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Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:50 am

@Despard: I'm interested in trying out the drag look. Mainly because I am not sure if the women's fashions can get in through doorways where I am! :))
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Postby Elwen Rhiannon » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:54 pm

Euphrasie, thank you so much, I'll try these as soon as I manage to blackmail someone into helping me! Alas, I have straight hair and am not sure if the curls will work, but I simply have to try something from that site. :D
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Postby Col.Despard » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:44 pm

I'll see what I can come up with, Aurelia...I'll put up a post on my 1920s fashion blog, as there are a lot of girls on my friends list who do 18 - 19th century costuming. Same with the hair, Elwen. You might find a setting lotion helps to keep the curls in place...this can be a bit difficult to find these days, but hairstores that carry a selection of lines aimed at African women's stying, particularly African-Americans, often carry a strong setting lotion. I do know of how to get some of the long Mary Pickfordesque sausage curls popular in the late teens - early 20s, but these would need adaptation to get them into a proper 20s/30s style.
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Postby Usefulbeauty » Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:26 pm

Those links are really interesting! I went digging through my bookmarks and found this: http://www.koshka-the-cat.com/fashion_plates.html. The fashion plates and magazine articles from 1829 and 1831 might be of interest. If you look around the rest of this site, you'll see that this girl makes some seriously awesome clothes and I believe there's a page on Romantic era corsets.
Also, there's this website: http://jas-townsend.com/index.php. It sells reproduction clothes and accessories, mainly for Revolutionary War reenactors, but there are a few 1830s-ish replicas. (Theglassestheglassestheglasses...)
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