Shameless map geekery

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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Marianne » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:29 pm

Omnibus map has been reconstituted into one gigantic image and put up on my website.

WARNING: HUGE IMAGE ALERT (3209 x 2457 pixels, 2.2mb)
http://www.chanvrerie.net/paris/paris-omnibus-1831.html
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby MmeJavert » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:33 pm

Yay! The original website was such a pain in the arse to try and navigate, I have to say. This is so much nicer. :D
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby MmeBahorel » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:07 am

As someone who sometimes has trouble deciphering that font so small, particularly with the abbreviations, I offer this as an adjunct: Dictionnaire historique de Paris, tome II, published in 1828. It is in French, but if you go to page 152, you get the section on "Rues", and beginning on page 197, it goes alphabetically through the streets of Paris, where they intersect with other streets, and the numbering scheme (this goes on for nearly 400 pages - it may well be every street in Paris). Very helpful to me in narrowing down "what the hell is that one?" There's also a listing of neighbourhoods ("Quartiers") starting on page 128.
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Marianne » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:59 am

Oh, neat! The Nomenclature des voies database is also back online if you need modern-day equivalents (it has similar statistics as well as historic info on street names/stats).

Also, this made me lol:

Chanverrie (rue de la): elle commence rue Saint Denis, et finit rue Mondétour; nos impairs 4e arrond., Q. des Marchés; nos impairs 5 arrond, Q. Montorgueil; Le nom que porte cette rue a beaucoup varié; c'est tour à tour Chanverie, Chanvrerie, Chanvoirerie, Champverrerie, Chanverrerie, Champvoirie, Champvoirerie, Chanvoirie, etc., soit qu il y ait eu dans cet endroit une manufacture de verrerie, ou une voirie, soit enfin à cause de la filasse et du chanvre qu on y vendait. Cette dernière conjecture paraît la plus vraisemblable: car au treizième siècle on trouve cette rue nommée en latin Cannaberia


Chanvrerie (rue de la): begins at the Rue Saint-Denis, and ends at the Rue Mondétour; odd numbers in the 4th arrondissement, market neighborhood; odd numbers in the 5th arrondissement, Montorgueil neighborhood. The name which this street bears has varied a great deal: it has been by turns Chanverie, Chanvrerie, Chanvoirerie, Champverrerie, Chanverrerie, Champvoirie, Champvoirerie, Chanvoirie, etc., either because there was a glassware (verrerie) manufacture there, or a network of roads (voirie), or because of the oakum and hemp (chanvre) that were sold there. This last conjecture seems the most likely: for in the thirteenth century one finds this street named Cannaberia in Latin.
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Orso » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:23 am

Um. Couple of things here... just give me a chance to regain some coherence, please.

First: I'd like to comment, along with many of the others here, that you seem to have been gifted with some kind of incredible, supernatural ability for research. And right now my entirely unhealthy obsession over maps is very grateful to you for that.

Second: The omnibus route map from '31 is probably the best thing I've ever seen, and ever will see.

Third: Is the ugly red-blotchy map you mentioned in your first post by any chance from 1839?

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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Marianne » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:55 am

It is! It's Ambrose Tardieu's 1839 map of Paris.
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Auf die Barrikaden » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:35 pm

As it's the 5th of June already, I wanna share this with you: Plan de Paris 1840
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Marianne » Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:20 am

....wow. Most readable one I've ever seen--even the tiny street names are perfectly legible. Great find!

(A-ha, so the rue des Billettes was roughly a continuation of the rue de l'Homme-Armé and they'd both be the rue des Archives right now. That kind of came up on the barricade day tour last year.)
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby MmeBahorel » Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:59 am

OMG. This is amazing - THANK YOU!!!!
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Auf die Barrikaden » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:55 pm

Always a pleasure to share goodies...oh btw, shameless map geekery anno 1832:
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Auf die Barrikaden » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:10 pm

So, what have we here...ah yes, Map of Paris 1730, zoomable, full view mode!

http://cultureandstuff.com/2011/05/20/l ... 30s-paris/

Have fun in getting lost in ancient Paris retracing the novel!

EDIT: Due to the unusual angle and the amount of detail you get a much much better look at the Rue de la Chanvrererie and it's surrounding streets than on any previous map...you can almost make out the Corinthe...

And since we are at it, another goodie from that site's series about Lost Paris: http://cultureandstuff.com/2011/05/24/l ... -bastille/
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby YoungStudentMarius » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:07 pm

This is so COOL!!!!! I love all these... No we can figure out where in the world all these things happened! You guys might enjoy this, if it hasn't been posted already. It appears to be a map of...1832 France, of all places! :wink:

http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~21029~540006:The-environs-of-Paris--J--&-C--Walk
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby The Bricklayer » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:28 pm

Shiny maps. :D Thank you!
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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Auf die Barrikaden » Mon May 06, 2013 7:02 pm

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Re: Shameless map geekery

Postby Acaila » Mon May 06, 2013 8:06 pm

Ooooh lovely find! :D
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