Shameless map geekery

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Shameless map geekery

Postby Marianne » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:27 am

So, um, in case any of you hadn't noticed, I have a minor obsession with what the places Hugo describes looked like at the time he was writing about--possibly the old bastard is rubbing off on me, because he seems to have had a similar obsession with describing in nit-picky detail the exact situation of every setting he used in Paris. I mean, there's a whole damn section of my website devoted to collecting maps of Paris from the 1820s and 30s. And recently, I have found shinies.

An exceedingly legible map of the Right Bank around the Hôtel de Ville. Why is this shiny? Because you can see all sorts of things! The rue de la Chanvrerie (top left, abbreviated Chanver). The spot where Javert graduated from Tosca's School of Diving. The Cloister of Saint-Merry. The rue de la Verrerie. The rue des Billets intersecting the rue de la Verrerie and going up to almost touch the rue de l'Homme-Armé. La Force. The church of St-Paul-St-Louis. And it's all legible! *glee*

Um, let me explain. The only other pre-Haussman maps of Paris I have are either too old to be useful, or mostly illegible. One of them is very big and pretty but wasn't scanned at good enough resolution to read the street names, and the other one often has the text obscured by its ugly red coloring (not to mention is in a giant pdf file). So this is exciting for me, dammit. If only I could find comparable ones--or scans from the same map--for the Latin Quarter or the faubourg Saint-Marcel.

Also, a map of Montfermeil from somewhere between 1825 and 1835.

I would love to find one of Montreuil-sur-Mer--of the town itself, that is, not just its placement in the surrounding region--but I've been too lazy. I suspect that the actual layout hasn't changed much in the past two hundred years, but a bunch of streets have been renamed.
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Postby lesmisloony » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:32 am

The spot where Javert graduated from Tosca's School of Diving.

I love you so hard.
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Postby Marianne » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:38 am

lesmisloony wrote:
The spot where Javert graduated from Tosca's School of Diving.

I love you so hard.


>_> I yoinked it off... somewhere. Don't remember. But I didn't make it up.
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Postby lesmisloony » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:25 am

Oh. Never mind then. :P
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Postby Marianne » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:38 am

Alas, nobody loves me. Or my map geekery. I think I'll go throw myself into the Seine now.
[Dieu] entend ta voix, ô fille des hommes! aussi bien que celle des constellations; car rien n'est petit pour celui devant lequel rien n'est grand.

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Postby Frédéric Dumont » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:08 am

Marianne wrote:
lesmisloony wrote:
The spot where Javert graduated from Tosca's School of Diving.

I love you so hard.


>_> I yoinked it off... somewhere. Don't remember. But I didn't make it up.


All the same... WIN. That's one of my favourite operas.

And I do love you and your geekery. I just can't study the map more closely now since technically I'm at at the office. :lol:
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Postby brittlesmile » Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:17 am

Oooh, shiny! *pulls out of Seine* I for one love your map geekery.
"Détruire les abus, cela ne suffit pas; il faut modifier les moeurs. Le moulin n'y est plus, le vent y est encore."

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Postby lesmisloony » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:52 am

Okay, fine... I love your geekery.
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Postby Marianne » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:17 pm

Dude. DUDE. I just found a map of the Paris omnibus routes. From 1831. Scanned in high-res with a zoom function.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HAPPY THIS MAKES ME. I would have sold my soul for a legible map of Paris in 1831, and one with omnibus routes?!

http://216.117.166.233/map_zoomFR.htm?z ... /Paris-52/
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Postby brittlesmile » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:42 pm

It's gorgeous! :shock:
"Détruire les abus, cela ne suffit pas; il faut modifier les moeurs. Le moulin n'y est plus, le vent y est encore."

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Postby MmeJavert » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:43 pm

This is pretty much one of the best things ever to be found on the internets. :D
and to this day, she's glided on
always home but so far away
like a word misplaced
nothing said, what a waste

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Postby a_marguerite » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:47 pm

Your google-fu is the stuff of legend.

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Postby Marianne » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:24 pm

Just so I don't lose the site (which has other shinies on it), it's from here:

http://www.loeb-larocque.com/FR-Paris-plan.php

And yes, I have screencapped it for posterity in case the site takes it down.
[Dieu] entend ta voix, ô fille des hommes! aussi bien que celle des constellations; car rien n'est petit pour celui devant lequel rien n'est grand.

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Postby MmeBahorel » Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:57 am

OMFG. You find the best stuff. I am in awe.
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Postby Lara » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:09 pm

Whoa. THAT has got to be one of the greatest map finds ever.

And I'm also giggling at the little illustrations in the bottom left corner. Trycicle vs. tricycle = amazing.


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