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Postby Rachelle » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:23 am

Here's somewhere where we can go on and on about this show without having to put spoiler warnings on every post.
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Postby Rachelle » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:53 am

Well... I'll start if no one else will. Does everyone remember what point they were at when they actually "got" the plot twist? I'd watched all the songs out of sync so I had a completely different idea about the storyline. Then I saw the birthday cake sequence... and was like "what just happened there!?!?!"
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Postby Gervais » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:17 am

Yeah, the birthday scene was a biggie in me finding out, but I saw (on YT) the version that included the meltdown during the opening song and the one with the meltdown in the store (on was Broadway and one was off-broadway, I forget which was which), so those were the places in the actual musical that set off warning bells about Diana's mental health for me.
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Postby Rachelle » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:27 am

Gervais wrote:Yeah, the birthday scene was a biggie in me finding out, but I saw (on YT) the version that included the meltdown during the opening song and the one with the meltdown in the store (on was Broadway and one was off-broadway, I forget which was which), so those were the places in the actual musical that set off warning bells about Diana's mental health for me.

I knew she had really bad bipolar... I just didn't know Gabe was dead. I watched the majority of the songs without knowing this and in my head it made a lot of sense.
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Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:21 am

Actually the scene that really gets me is "I Am the One"---reprise. It's the one that confirms for me that he's a ghost, not a hallucination.
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Postby Rachelle » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:43 am

Yeah, I like to think that as well, because for the most part he is like a manifestation of his mother's illness, but in that scene I think he's a ghost rather than a hallucination.
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Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:25 pm

It's either that or a bad case of folie a deux.
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Re: Next to Normal

Postby Rachelle » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:19 am

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Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:28 am

Oh my gosh. :lol: :lol:

I wonder, so when does the jump from hallucination to ghost occur? Or was Gabe always just a ghost?
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Postby Rachelle » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:40 am

Aurelia Combeferre wrote:Oh my gosh. :lol: :lol:

I wonder, so when does the jump from hallucination to ghost occur? Or was Gabe always just a ghost?


I think it's open to interpretation depending on how it's played. A lot of people think he's hallucination the whole way through but seeing him as a ghost in some parts makes hims seem a lot less malevolent.
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Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:34 pm

It is possible for hallucinations to change in nature after all, I think. (really should stop obsessing about psychiatry).

It troubles me though that Dan could see Gabe at the end. Which is why I am leaning towards the folie a deux theory.
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Postby Rachelle » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:03 pm

Aurelia Combeferre wrote:It is possible for hallucinations to change in nature after all, I think. (really should stop obsessing about psychiatry).

It troubles me though that Dan could see Gabe at the end. Which is why I am leaning towards the folie a deux theory.

Sorry, what is follie a deux?
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Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:20 pm

A psychiatric disorder that has two people taking part in the same set of psychoses. For instance, one person may have a delusion that he/she is a knight, and the second may have the delusion that he/she is the squire. Or they may be seeing the same set of hallucinations.
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Re: Next to Normal

Postby Acaila » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:30 pm

That's how I always interpreted it. I think it's a lot less tragic if he's a ghost. Because that's the moment where we really see the effect on his dad rather than just his mum.
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Re: Next to Normal

Postby Rachelle » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:39 pm

I just love this show so much. I think you are right in terms of him being a different hallucination for his mother and father. The music is just so good, I mean it takes really good music to turn what could be a really creepy song (I'm alive) and make it that epic. I can't stop listening to it and You don't know/I am the one.
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