CC21106 wrote:It's pretty crude. I wouldn't want my mother to see it.23623 wrote:Sorry for the slightly off-topic rant...but some musical-Rs really annoy me. I hate hate HATE the "bottle penis" thing.
YES IT IS.
I've also seen a Thenardier who goes to have sex with his wife after they get the money from Valjean. I HATE sex jokes in the show. They're so inappropriate and so gross.
I'm wondering if these jokes and the violent fighting in Confrontation, like shippy E/R moments, are of fan service as well. I don't think I've seen that many "bottle penis" Grantaires or sex-machine Thenardiers in earlier productions. The Confrontation in OLC is nothing like what it is now. When you listen to OLC you can feel that Colm and Roger were at least negotiating in a civilized manner. Actually Valjean knocking Javert out in order to escape is already OOC to begin with, and having Valjean strangle Javert (I think it was the 25AC tour that started this?) is just too much for me, seriously. But maybe the audience like to see some intense, actual fighting? I don't know. *shrugs* Can't say much about E/R as I don't have slash sensors, but it makes sense if it has become an official ship by popular demand lol.
Olivia_y wrote:23623 wrote:One thing I noticed is that Simon Gleeson was calmer than most of Valjeans in this scene.
Lol, that's gunny 'cos he does that thing of pushing Javert to the ground, which is...not calm at all
See, there's another reason we need a video of this cast! *pokes Olivia again* Go and get one. You still have one month's time!
Olivia_y wrote:23623 wrote:One thing about Jeremy: I heard that sometimes he actually cried during Suicide?
Can't say I've noticed actual tears, but he does sound shattered throughout the whole thing, but also sort of veers between distress/anger (on some nights he shouts a lot of the lines, which is...unsettling). I love it when he plays up the distress and tones down the anger, and wouldn't be surprised if he does cry on occasion.
So actually Jeremy is more on the angry side as well? I mean not the Hayden-type angry but somewhat angry, or at least angrier than Carpenter?
I love Voice Of Reason Javerts so, so much. Angry Javerts just don't appeal to me in general. There are a few exceptions though, depending on their acting...did I say that we really need a video of this cast?
I was talking about Will Swenson with a Jeremy fan the other day. I said I dislike Swenson for many reasons but there was one show where he got very emotional and could barely control his sobs in Suicide. It really broke my heart to watch him cry. Then she told me Jeremy also cried quite often during Suicide. That's why I asked if you have seen that on stage. Poor Javert. I would have cried with him had I seen Les Mis on stage.