deHavilland wrote:The part where the characters are really well-embodied by the actors portraying them falls down to the actor's ability to act moreso than anything else, which is what is usually being sought after in an audition anyway. A good actor will take the time to actually read the novel and pay attention to what Hugo has to say about their character and may make an effort to try and incorporate that into their performance.
Agreed. I really respect those who spend time studying source materials (and even though their parts are rather minor). What I wanted to say was just that musical amis are not so important to me. They are just ensemble roles with names. I'm fine if they are played by bad actors (usually I won't notice to be honest). A terrible...say, Courfeyrac, is certainly more bearable than a terrible Valjean.
This thread might be handy for telling barricade boys apart in the versions that there are on the DVD: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2512
Thank you, Acaila! This thread is quite helpful. And the CATS idea is priceless.
Ursula_F wrote:Oh, wow...I'm the same way, but never dared to admit it because I know the boys are so popular! But since you broke the ice...The characters I'm most invested in are Valjean and Javert. Fantine's arc moves me too, and Valjean getting little Cosette. And in the book, I also really loved Gavroche's chapters, and Marius and Cosette's courtship (which didn't interest me in the musical or movie, but is much better in the book). And the Thenardiers are really fun in the musical, and scary as hell in the book.
But as for the barricade boys...well...I do like Enjolras' intensity and passion, and the priceless "You've GOT to be kidding me" look he gives Marius in the movie when Marius is singing about Cosette, and I love the line "Who cares about your lonely soul?" And I like Grantaire's humor (especially the "I am agog! I am aghast!" verse), and his closeness to Gavroche and devastation at Gavroche's death. But that's about it. And the other boys all blur together to me (and I DID read the Brick, but I still don't really care about them! I'm sorry!).
I. Totally. Agree. With. This.
I was introduced by the movie and then watched TAC. For a loooooong time I didn't even know Enjolras' name because it is never stated in the movie!
I finally started paying attention to him after discovering CSR (because Anthony Warlow is just impossible not to pay attention to) but I still can't get attached to him. Don't know why. *sincerely apologizes to the whole fandom*
One more thing about the Thenardiers. I hate them so much that I want to kill them in the most merciless way (same with Tholomyes if he made an appearance in the musical). I think it's really unfair that they don't get any notable punishment in the musical. That's why I really appreciate badass Valjean being as badass as he can to Thenardiers while taking Cosette away!
Prisoner 24653 wrote:- In the Berlin production, though they were definitely not the best performers in those roles and were understudied and/or replaced by better ones, I actually liked Olegg Vynnyk (Valjean), Uwe Kröger (Javert), and Vera Bolten (Éponine). I dislike Kröger in general but was surprised that I didn't mind him so much here. And though I wasn't fond of Bolten in the highlights album, live recordings helped me understand why she was cast. (Though she really didn't work as Fantine -- that was probably the only time I thought a role was definitely miscast in any of what I've heard from this production.) The Berlin production overall is perhaps my favorite that I've heard.
Wait, is he an unpopular
Valjean??? I refuse to believe this. While searching for Christian Müller's phantom videos I by chance came across an audio of this guy singing BHH. I'm not kidding: this is the best BHH I've ever heard. I used to hate this guy as der Tod but his BHH totally changed my attitude about him. Haven't seen his acting though...well there may be some videos but seeing him means also seeing Kroger...urgh...