_23623_ wrote:Gosh this was exactly what I thought while reading Monte Cristo! During my reading I just couldn't help thinking how similar it is to LM. Before I read the novel I vaguely knew that MC is a story about vengeance but that was all. The first time the similarity occurred to me was Edmond's escape. I thought Valjean was the only top escape artist in France but apparently he learned all the skills from his master! Then I started seriously looking into the similarities between MC and LM...and my next (pretty obvious) observations were that Caderousse is basically Thenardier and Faria is the Myriel to Edmond. Villefort and Javert share no similarity besides their profession though. I don't think Mercedes and Fantine are really similar either. It didn't occur to me before but now I see that Enjolras and Eugenie are kind of similar (not in terms of sexuality though, I see they're both rebels against conventions). And one last thing I guess probably no one's going to agree...Noirtier and Valentine strangely remind me of Valjean and Cosette. To be honest I find the love between the grandfather and the granddaughter far more touching than any other relationship in the novel (Maximilien and Valentine, Edmond and Mercedes/Haydee, etc). Noirtier is absolutely one of my favorite characters in MC.
humanracer wrote:If you are looking for another great French romance novel to read, you could do worse than try the latest translation of The Mysteries of Paris by Eugene Sue. ...
23623 wrote:*High five* Glad to see another Noirtier fan! Seriously, the world needs more Noirtier love. He definitely deserves the Best Grandpa In Literature Award.
CC21106 wrote:Noirtier is the best character in the book. Edmond is too perfect, too capable, too rich. He doesn't ever doubt himself except after that one terrible incident at the last. Besides that, everything he does works out exactly like he wants. He's like a superhero. The villains have no redeeming qualities that might make for conflict.
If Jean had stayed vengeful and hateful, he wouldn't have lasted six weeks in the free world. And he's more interesting because even though he turns good very early on, he remains capable of selfish and even evil thoughts. "Jean Valjean tore up his shirt, bandaged the young man’s wounds as well as he was able and stopped the flowing blood; then bending over Marius, who still lay unconscious and almost without breathing, in that half light, he gazed at him with inexpressible hatred."
Got to say, the villains in LM also don't have any redeeming qualities.
23623 wrote:...I don't approve of the idea of revenge to begin with.
23623 wrote:I always consider Mme Thenardier's love for her daughters as a redeeming quality. The Thenardier family is dominated by M. Thenardier. The other family members are more or less manipulated by him. In this sense she also seems like the lesser evil of the two.
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