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One Thing

Postby Rachel » Wed May 08, 2013 3:53 am

No, not the One Direction song.

I wasn't sure where to put this thread, so if it needs to be moved/deleted, that's fine.

If you could take one misconception the fandom has and fix it entirely, what would it be? So, like, the way they see Montparnasse, or Éponine, or think that Cosette is a horrid person...
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Re: One Thing

Postby Marianne » Wed May 08, 2013 4:11 am

The idea that Grantaire offered any substantive criticisms or challenges to the Amis' ideals or methods. Sorry guys, he really is just a disruptive jackass whose knee-jerk instinct is to disparage or despair over anything in front of him. (I mean, as concerns his vaunted 'cynicism.' He's also a good friend, lively company when he doesn't have a dark cloud hanging over his head, paradoxically head-over-heels for Enjolras, etc.) Depending on the current wave of fanon, we get Cassandra!Grantaire spouting prophecies about the futility of protest (usually with the implication that he'll be totally vindicated by the events of the novel, when that's not even the point of the events of the novel), smart-aleck Grantaire speaking truth to power and keeping Enjolras on his toes with constructive criticism, or whatever the flavor of the week is... oh, fandom, no. Grantaire is none of those things. Grantaire is an exceedingly verbose drunken Eeyore.
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Re: One Thing

Postby Acaila » Wed May 08, 2013 4:21 am

Oh man, there are so many things that annoy me it is genuinely far too difficult to know where to start.

Pushing aside all of the characterisation that reduces characters to one trait (and believe me, it is very difficult to look beyond fans who treat Jehan as nothing more than a flower-obsessed pansy (hehe))...

I'll go with my gut and say people who say/believe Javert is a villain.
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Re: One Thing

Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Wed May 08, 2013 6:02 am

That Cosette is nothing but a brainless doll who 'stole' Marius from Éponine.
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Re: One Thing

Postby Majestic_Picnob » Wed May 08, 2013 6:04 am

I'm not sure I'd want this totally wiped away because it'd probably make the Eppyboppers even worse, but I've decided my least favorite fandom trend is people claiming Éponine was completely insane and troll-hideous. I get that it's tempting to say "nuh-uh!" to the Eppyboppers, but if you have to ignore canon (page 718, paragraphs 2-4 in the Rose translation) to make your point I regard you as just the same as them.
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Re: One Thing

Postby Gervais » Wed May 08, 2013 12:16 pm

The one that I've noticed the most is pansy!flowers!braids!girly!Jehan. I've ranted about this before, about how if it was just a few people's view of him I'd be alright with it, but it's the view of almost all of tumblr from what I can see.Where did all of that even come from, anyway?
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Re: One Thing

Postby Aurelia Combeferre » Wed May 08, 2013 12:20 pm

Gervais wrote:The one that I've noticed the most is pansy!flowers!braids!girly!Jehan. I've ranted about this before, about how if it was just a few people's view of him I'd be alright with it, but it's the view of almost all of tumblr from what I can see.Where did all of that even come from, anyway?


Generally misinterpreting his canon description; most people do not get the implications of Prouvaire's reading list.
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Re: One Thing

Postby MmeBahorel » Thu May 09, 2013 2:26 am

That is a terrible thing to say about Eeyore, Marianne! Eeyore could never be that obnoxious.

I'd add that Grantaire/Enjolras could ever actually be a thing. Grantaire wouldn't want Enjolras if Enjolras would have him.
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Re: One Thing

Postby Marianne » Thu May 09, 2013 2:33 am

:lol: Okay, then, an incredibly verbose and cantankerous drunken Eeyore.
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Re: One Thing

Postby Rachel » Thu May 09, 2013 2:34 am

my inner Grantaire is feeling a bit insulted so I think I'm going to go sing a depressing verse and go drink myself half to death in a corner
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Re: One Thing

Postby Acaila » Thu May 09, 2013 2:56 am

Thoroughly off topic, but now there's a plotbunny in my head about a revolution in Hundred Acre Wood and it's all falling into place with distressing ease.
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Re: One Thing

Postby Rachelle » Thu May 09, 2013 9:21 am

Piglet is Joly and Pooh is Bossuet. It's just perfect!!
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Re: One Thing

Postby Acaila » Thu May 09, 2013 12:48 pm

Piglet is so Joly, Owl is Combeferre, Tigger is Courfeyrac, Kanga and Roo are Bahorel and Jehan....


EDIT: On topic, can I nominate as a close second: Anyone using the phrases "the Les Amis" or "an Amis"
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Re: One Thing

Postby Rachelle » Thu May 09, 2013 2:51 pm

Pooh is Bossuet because he's unlucky all the time.
So is Christopher Robin Enjolras then?
And who would Rabbit be?
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Re: One Thing

Postby Acaila » Thu May 09, 2013 2:56 pm

Yes, that's what I was thinking!
Oh my, I must hand over my Pooh fan card, because I forgot Rabbit existed :oops:
(so much for me trying to get it back on topic :D)
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