Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby 23623 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:27 am

deHavilland wrote:Boooooo, I like Fat Cop! Varela was so much fun offstage while he was doing the show that I can look past the fact that his Javert never made me feel the way I do about Quast -- but then who does?

I vaguely remembered you had said something about him being funny so I decided to search him on Youtube. Then I suddenly realized that his name is actually ANDREW Varela not Andrea Varela. :oops: :oops: :oops: Damn...I had also thought Aris Sas was called Eric and Anton Z-something-I-still-can't-spell was called Alexander and I could even get "Artful Dodger" wrong because apparently I had problems with names starting with an A. Anyway, I'm so curious what it is that you find so funny about him. :D

15 - John Owen-Jones +1
14 - Drew Sarich
13 - Geronimo Rauch
12 - Randal Keith
12 - Gary Morris
12 - Colm Wilkinson
11 - Ivan Rutherford
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Simon Gleeson
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Dave Willetts
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Stig Rossen
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Simon Bowman -1
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Peter Karrie
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
6 - Alexander Gemignani
OK...I joked about not voting for JOJ. To be honest I wasn't really fond of him at first but that has changed thanks to some recent videos. Not sure if he'll be my favorite someday (oops...I'm only 4 years into this fandom and I keep switching my favorite Valjeans) but it's entirely possible. Simon Bowman was in another terrible Confrontation that almost made me stop listening. And you Javert, you're not safe either. Wait until Havvy makes a Javert edition and once I find out who you are... :wink:

New idea for Javert edition: let's cut Phillip Quast from the list because the game wouldn't be balanced as long as he stayed there, lol!
And I apologize in advance to those who will get downvoted partly for Valjeans.
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby deHavilland » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:06 pm

23623 wrote:Anyway, I'm so curious what it is that you find so funny about him. :D

New idea for Javert edition: let's cut Phillip Quast from the list because the game wouldn't be balanced as long as he stayed there, lol!
And I apologize in advance to those who will get downvoted partly for Valjeans.


This is probably an excellent idea. Quast would win, no doubt about it. May as well acknowledge that and say "aside from Quast..."

In regards to Varela: Javert has a lot of downtime over the course of the show, so Varela used to livestream from his dressing room when he wasn't performing. He'd just be mucking around half-dressed as Javert and half-not dressed at all. He also gave us this gem and the "Behind the Barricade" interview series, where he interviewed the rest of the cast of the US tour about their personal lives and involvement in Les Mis, which is tons of fun for a listen. And during his last performance, he dropped his billy club as if it were a microphone and thus mic dropped his way out of the show. It was beautiful.

He may not have been everyone's favorite Javert, but he gave back to the fans and for this, we love him.


15 - John Owen-Jones
14 - Drew Sarich
13 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith +1
12 - Gary Morris
12 - Colm Wilkinson
11 - Ivan Rutherford
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Simon Gleeson
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Dave Willetts
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Stig Rossen
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Simon Bowman
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Peter Karrie -1
6 - Alexander Gemignani
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby Olivia_y » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:35 pm

Surprised Alfie got booted so quickly, isn't he one of those Valjeans people are constantly gushing over? :shock: (which puzzles me, since I'm not particularly fond of him myself though, so no complaints lol).

15 - John Owen-Jones
14 - Drew Sarich
13 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith
12 - Simon Gleeson +1
11 - Gary Morris -1

12 - Colm Wilkinson
11 - Ivan Rutherford
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Dave Willetts
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Stig Rossen
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Simon Bowman
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Peter Karrie -1
6 - Alexander Gemignani

I do wish there's a more recent version of Simon Gleeson's 'Bring Him Home', he sounds much better now than he did in 2014. Then again you could probably say that for a lot of them.

There seems to be a lot of love for Quast on these forums. But I've read opinions to the contrary elsewhere. When people say they don't like Quast as Javert I realise that there is no way to please everyone.

deHavilland wrote:He'd just be mucking around half-dressed as Javert and half-not dressed at all.

They should really make this a tradition. Well, depending on who's playing Javert I guess...

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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby Prisoner 24653 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:58 pm

Olivia_y wrote:Surprised Alfie got booted so quickly, isn't he one of those Valjeans people are constantly gushing over? :shock: (which puzzles me, since I'm not particularly fond of him myself though, so no complaints lol).


From what I've seen, Boe seems to be popular among casual fans, or perhaps even those who have only seen the anniversary concerts and movie or are Boe fans in general and don't care that much about LM specifically. But then again, a former teacher of mine who has seen several live performances over the years (including Colm in SF and Jeff Leyton in Manchester) also liked him, so hey.

And yeah, doing this for Javerts other than Quast would likely be a good idea, though I'd happily try to keep boosting somebody over him just to keep the competition going if we were including him. :lol:

15 - John Owen-Jones
14 - Drew Sarich
13 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith
12 - Simon Gleeson
11 - Gary Morris
12 - Colm Wilkinson
11 - Ivan Rutherford
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Dave Willetts
11 - Robert Marien
11 - Stig Rossen +1
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Simon Bowman -1
7 - Peter Karrie
6 - Alexander Gemignani

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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby Acaila » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:01 pm

Our show producer loves him. I feel bad that I can't stop myself from twitching over it, but bless her she hasn't taken offence!

15 - John Owen-Jones
14 - Drew Sarich
13 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith
12 - Simon Gleeson
11 - Gary Morris
12 - Colm Wilkinson
12 - Stig Rossen +1
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Dave Willetts
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Ivan Rutherford -1
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
6 - Alexander Gemignani
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby Prisoner 24653 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:15 pm

(Random: You have two downvotes there -- I think the one for Rutherford was the one you were intending. Though I'd be happy with both him and Bowman getting downvoted at once, but I guess that's not how the game works. Feel free to delete this post if you wish.) lol

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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby 23623 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:39 am

deHavilland wrote:In regards to Varela: Javert has a lot of downtime over the course of the show, so Varela used to livestream from his dressing room when he wasn't performing. He'd just be mucking around half-dressed as Javert and half-not dressed at all. He also gave us this gem and the "Behind the Barricade" interview series, where he interviewed the rest of the cast of the US tour about their personal lives and involvement in Les Mis, which is tons of fun for a listen. And during his last performance, he dropped his billy club as if it were a microphone and thus mic dropped his way out of the show. It was beautiful.

He may not have been everyone's favorite Javert, but he gave back to the fans and for this, we love him.

ROFLMAO!!! OMG that video is priceless... :lol: This also reminds me of a video I watched a long time ago, in which two actors (though they've never played Javert) sing Stars dressed as sort of special agents, with sunglasses, cigars and fangirls, lol! We definitely need a series like these. I was laughing so hard that my mom came in twice and asked me what was wrong. And wow, now I feel you! I have the same feeling about the 2013 London cast. I don't like them on stage, but they are so adorable in that Christmas calendar thing that I really can't bring myself to hate them!

As for Alfie Boe, I don't like him as Valjean. He was totally miscast. But I must admit that I was touched by his tears in the Finale of 25AC. :( That and Nick Jonas are the only two things I actually remember about the concert.

Well, my vote this time only serves to Prove A Point:
15 - John Owen-Jones
14 - Drew Sarich
14 - Geronimo Rauch +1 ...boosting someone up is totally something I'd love to do
13 - Randal Keith
12 - Simon Gleeson
12 - Stig Rossen
11 - Colm Wilkinson -1 ...and see? Indeed there is no way to please everyone. 8)
11 - Gary Morris
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Dave Willetts
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Ivan Rutherford
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
6 - Alexander Gemignani
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby Acaila » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:15 pm

Prisoner 24653 wrote:(Random: You have two downvotes there -- I think the one for Rutherford was the one you were intending. Though I'd be happy with both him and Bowman getting downvoted at once, but I guess that's not how the game works. Feel free to delete this post if you wish.) lol


Derp, I forgot to take off the previous down vote. Totals were correct at least :D Thanks bro!

15 - John Owen-Jones
14 - Drew Sarich
14 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith
12 - Simon Gleeson
12 - Stig Rossen
12 - Colm Wilkinson +1
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Dave Willetts
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Gary Morris -1
10 - Ivan Rutherford
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
6 - Alexander Gemignani
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby Prisoner 24653 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:05 pm

No worries, Acaila! :D

Sorry, Dave... Liked your Phantom and thought the LM album you did with Claire Moore was a fun project; but I didn't get your Valjean. (Kinda glad that they have to go all the way down to 0 to be taken off the list, and that we have a diverse enough range of fan opinions that Boe is the only one who was disliked enough to get kicked off so quickly... Having to downvote a Valjean I actually like because all the ones I dislike or am ambivalent towards are gone wouldn't be a fun experience. :lol: )

15 - John Owen-Jones
14 - Drew Sarich
14 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith
13 - Colm Wilkinson +1
12 - Simon Gleeson
12 - Stig Rossen
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Dave Willetts -1
10 - Gary Morris
10 - Ivan Rutherford
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
6 - Alexander Gemignani

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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby deHavilland » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:49 pm

Prisoner 24653 wrote:(Kinda glad that they have to go all the way down to 0 to be taken off the list, and that we have a diverse enough range of fan opinions that Boe is the only one who was disliked enough to get kicked off so quickly... Having to downvote a Valjean I actually like because all the ones I dislike or am ambivalent towards are gone wouldn't be a fun experience. :lol: )


I hear you! I struggle though with not just upvoting JOJ repeatedly and systematically knocking everyone else off, though! It's hard to up-vote another Valjean, but I'm trying to remind myself that of all the times I've seen John Owen-Jones and loved him, I have actually enjoyed other performers, too.

15 - John Owen-Jones
14 - Drew Sarich
14 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith
13 - Colm Wilkinson
12 - Simon Gleeson
12 - Stig Rossen
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Robert Marien
11 - Gary Morris +1
10 - Dave Willetts
10 - Ivan Rutherford
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
5 - Alexander Gemignani - 1
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby Acaila » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:28 am

I always forget Dave Willetts was a Valjean. It doesn't really seem a character for him.

15 - John Owen-Jones
15 - Drew Sarich +1
14 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith
13 - Colm Wilkinson
12 - Simon Gleeson
12 - Stig Rossen
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Gary Morris -1
10 - Dave Willetts
10 - Ivan Rutherford
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Michael Burgess
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
5 - Alexander Gemignani
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby 23623 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:12 am

Prisoner 24653 wrote:(Kinda glad that they have to go all the way down to 0 to be taken off the list, and that we have a diverse enough range of fan opinions that Boe is the only one who was disliked enough to get kicked off so quickly... Having to downvote a Valjean I actually like because all the ones I dislike or am ambivalent towards are gone wouldn't be a fun experience. :lol: )

Lol! Next time I'll consider upvoting Alexander Gemignani just to stir things up, lol. Also, I think I'm effectively upvoting Colm by downvoting him because you and Acaila would always appear whenever he gets a downvote. You Colm fans... :P

New faces for real this time. I actually lol-ed listening to Michael Burgess' version because in fact this is precisely how I feel about Peter Lockyer's Valjean. I mean, even though Lockyer sang it on stage, in Valjean costume and with the standard orchestration, I still think he looked so like a rock singer from the 60s. Give him a guitar or harmonica and he'll be perfect. As much as I love rock music and all the 60s awesomeness, this is not how BHH should be done. To be fair this downvote should be shared with Lockyer. :mrgreen:

Acaila, can we add Jacobsen to the list because I REALLY want to upvote him. But...as he's not here..let me upvote the principal instead.

16 - John Owen-Jones +1
15 - Drew Sarich
14 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith
13 - Colm Wilkinson
12 - Simon Gleeson
12 - Stig Rossen
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Gary Morris
10 - Dave Willetts
10 - Ivan Rutherford
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
9 - Daniel Koek
9 - Peter Lockyer
8 - Craig Schulman
8 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Michael Burgess -1
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
5 - Alexander Gemignani
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby deHavilland » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:46 pm

16 - John Owen-Jones
15 - Drew Sarich
14 - Geronimo Rauch
13 - Randal Keith
13 - Colm Wilkinson
12 - Simon Gleeson
12 - Stig Rossen
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Gary Morris
10 - Dave Willetts
10 - Ivan Rutherford
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
10 - Peter Lockyer +1
9 - Daniel Koek
8 - Craig Schulman
7 - Hans-Peter Janssens -1
7 - Michael Burgess
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
5 - Alexander Gemignani

23623 wrote:Acaila, can we add Jacobsen to the list because I REALLY want to upvote him. But...as he's not here..let me upvote the principal instead.

If we add one understudy, we have to add them all -- and there are a lot. So no! :D :P
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby Acaila » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:06 am

16 - John Owen-Jones
15 - Drew Sarich
14 - Geronimo Rauch
14 - Colm Wilkinson +1
13 - Randal Keith
12 - Simon Gleeson
12 - Stig Rossen
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Gary Morris
10 - Dave Willetts
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
10 - Peter Lockyer
9 - Ivan Rutherford - 1
9 - Daniel Koek
8 - Craig Schulman
7 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Michael Burgess
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
5 - Alexander Gemignani
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Re: Performer Elimination Game -- Valjean Edition

Postby deHavilland » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:37 am

+ Gary Morris
- Michael Burgess (sorry Michael Burgess, no Canadian solidarity to be found in trying to expedite the process here)

16 - John Owen-Jones
15 - Drew Sarich
14 - Geronimo Rauch
14 - Colm Wilkinson
13 - Randal Keith
12 - Simon Gleeson
12 - Stig Rossen
11 - Gary Morris +1
11 - Ramin Karimloo
11 - Phil Cavill
11 - Jeff Leyton
11 - Robert Marien
10 - Dave Willetts
10 - David Shannon
10 - J. Mark McVey
10 - Peter Lockyer
9 - Ivan Rutherford
9 - Daniel Koek
8 - Craig Schulman
7 - Hans-Peter Janssens
7 - Simon Bowman
7 - Peter Karrie
6 - Michael Burgess -1
5 - Alexander Gemignani
"Quand vous aurez besoin de Bahorel, capitaine, Bahorel est là! Je sais faire trébucher tous les chevaux du garde-corps avec une ficelle... Rien qu'une petite ficelle. Enfin, pensez à Bahorel du Café Musain!"


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